Matrix Message 186
"Earthface(s)"
From: milamo@a...
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 3:26 am
Subject: Re: MARS: 'Face on Mars' in Peru
It seems to me that Kathy Doore (www.labyrinthina.com)
is doing some very good work .. regarding sites in the Peruvian/
Bolivian Andes. She mentioned this skyward-looking face to me ..
and I did ask her if it would be possible for her to put out a feeler
regarding someone getting an aerial photo of it. Also .. of course ..
if someone can pinpoint it on a good map .. I can probably get
its "ASM" figures.
There is a "carved" full-head sculpture (massive) at Marcahuasi, Peru ..
that Munck has already found to be in the ASM. I've mentioned
it a couple of times, as I recall.
-- Michael L.M.
In a message dated 06/21/2001 9:36:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ancient_vizier@y... writes:
<< > I can't believe that none of us knew about that
> Peruvian face! It's the only terrestrial face aimed
> skyward that I know about. Wow. The similarity is
> unnervingly close...
>
> Mac
Well the Face II at Cornet's "Cydonia II" site probably used to look
up, and have a "natural" face out here at Bandon, Oregon that's
mostly horizontal that I'm still hoping interested
archeocryptographers will find some success with, or even
archaeoastronomers since astronomical lore seems to cling to it
supposedly of Native American origin (Face Rock is in the USGS GNIS
database but not probably no "good" coordinates for that kind of
thing). Enough of a resemblance seems to be present that a lookout
point has devoted to it. Munck has found that several of these
"natural" faces tested (the Old Man of the Mountain and now Sphinx
Rock that was seen in Carlotto's book) may have deliberate placement
according to the matrix. And of course, they seem to "talk" to the
Cydonia Face mathematically. The Marcahuasi face's appearance is
especially impressive in this context, though.
BTW, the Marcahausi face was shown by Hoagland during his U.N.
Address ("Terrestrial Connection" Hoagland's Mars V.3 video). I wish
I had more info, and am not sure how much is in Bill Cote's video
since I don't have yet. Cote is also the one who provided Munck with
his map for Peruvian faces.
Cheers,
Robert >>
Yes ... indeed ..
As some of you may recall, I did work with Bruce Cornet's website
material in 1998 (Spring) .. re: his "Cydonian Analogues", as he called
them. I did find, actually, quite spectacular results .. using Dr. Cornet's
USGS map-overlays that he did have on his website. I ordered those
maps from USGS, and I did find exciting results.
Yes .. Dr. Cornet did go into (in my opinion) a kind of "denial" reaction
over my results, unfortunately .. although I do not "blame" him for this.
I have found ... as many of you, also, have found .. in "this work" ..
that many people_do_go into a "denial" reaction when "confronted"
with results that are not possible to dismiss. This is just how many people
in our current paradigm react to this sort of thing .. and you really don't
know
who is going to react this way, and who isn't .. until it happens.
But I'm not going to let Dr. Cornet's reaction stop me.
And .. who knows .. maybe he'll "come around" some day.
Sometimes it's not a question of the science involved .. its a
question of the psychological/emotional gestalt and situation
of the person(s) involved.
I'm trying to understand this "denial" thing better .. and I'm
realizing that "a book is needed", as well.
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Here, again, are the "EARTHFACE" figures I found for the
heavily-eroded structure in Middletown, New York, USA ..
with the Wallkill River literally running just under its nose.
Its size is quite similar .. in terms of length and width ..
to that of THE FACE @ Cydonia. Of course, it's hard to
tell what its "depth" was. (I just hope it's still there ...
meaning I hope it hasn't been destroyed and moved away
in dump trucks).
I would think an aerial photo might "reveal it" fairly well.
(Dr. Cornet really_did_have a very, very detailed website on
this and other "Cydonia Analogues" in that lower Hudson Valley
vicinity .. very comprehensive analyses).
Grid LAT "EARTHFACE" ..
41 (deg) X 24 (min) X 21.33658537 (sec) North ..
= 20995.2 North.
Grid LONG "EARTHFACE" ..
105 (deg) X 31 (min) X 7.963133641 (sec) W.Giza ..
= 25920 W.Giza.
Grid POINT Value .. "EARTHFACE" ..
25920 / 20995.2 = 1.234567901
(Morton, 1998, Internet).
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Notice the "25920" .. matching the Earth precession cycle in years.
Also .. Dr.Cornet mentioned, I recall .. that he thought the "EARTHFACE"
was a "mirror-image" of THE FACE @ Cydonia.
-- M.L.Morton
In a message dated 06/29/2001 9:32:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Westoo@h... writes:
<< Subj: [cydonia] The Earthface
Date: 06/29/2001 9:32:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Westoo@h... (westoo)
Reply-to: cydonia@yahoogroups.com
To: cydonia@yahoogroups.com
M.L. Morton...I never did thank you for your post of 6/5/01 regarding the
EARTHFACE in Middletown, NY. If it's at the south end of the runways at
Stewart Airport, then I know exactly where it is. The last time I flew into
Stewart was 2 or 3 years ago. From Dallas/Ft. Worth, I flew American
Airlines to Chicago's O'Hare Airport where they (American Airlines) have
several flights a day to Stewart.....just in case anyone wants to take a trip
out that way to investigate. I don't know the extent of the erosion or if
there's anything left there to look at, but if Dr. Cornet was correct and
it's the mirror image of the Face on Mars, maybe it's not too late to
investigate. If we want to take action and spur public interest in Cydonia,
maybe this is the place to start. You were concerned about Dr. Cornel's
going into denial. It sounds like pressure was brought to bear on him and
very likely, someone scared him into dropping the entire project. I know of
other investigators like him who have at the very least been
'decredentialed', forced into hiding, or worse so it is apparent that
somebody is seriously hiding something. As far as I know, there is
construction going on around the airport. Whether it's only in the planning
stages, or already started, I don't know. Neither am I sure if the EARTHFACE
is being threatend, has been obliterated, or not.
www.bergerlehman.com/trans2htm
Perhaps, instead of trying to finance a private trip to Mars, it would be
more realistic to take steps to save the EARTHFACE, assuming it's not too
late, and see what we can learn about the Face at Cydonia from there.
Thoughts, anyone? Betsy >>
Betsy ...
Much thanks for posting this !! I need to correct an apparent
mis-understanding .. that I notice in the 'above' copy.
It is the "Tholus II" analogue that is closely associated with Stewart
Air Force Base. And it is "EARTHFACE" that is located in Middletown, NY.
Those are 2 separate structures .. 2 separate locations.
"Tholus II" is situated just south of the runways of Stewart Air Force Base.
This must be a_different_place than "Stewart Airport" .... yes/no ??
"EARTHFACE" is_in_Middletown, NY. The Wallkill River literally runs
right under the 'nose' of "EARTHFACE".
OK .. is this clear ?
Here, again, as I've mentioned several times on this list ...
is the relationship ... the "ASM" relationship ..
between "EARTHFACE" and "Tholus II" ....
(1.111111111) Squared = 1.234567901
1.111111111 .. is the "ASM" Grid POINT Value of "Tholus II".
1.234567901 .. is the "ASM" Grid POINT Value of "EARTHFACE".
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To Betsy, and to "bergerlehman" .... much, much thanks, again ..
for your interest !!! YES .. of course, I agree .. this is something
sitting right in our "back yard" .. literally and_purposely_analagous-to ...
THE FACE_and_THE THOLUS @ Cydonia on Mars !!!
YES ... let's at least make a serious_attempt_to *recognize*, and
to *save* .. the remains of these structures !!!
Because of the critical importance of this subject, I will again
post, here, following .. my "ASM" figures for Dr.Cornet's discoveries
of these "Cydonian Analogues", as he called them, in his original,
very detailed descriptions of them on his former webpages.
(Again, as I've said before .. I do not blame Dr.Cornet for removing
the webpages. The combination of his detailed work at these sites,
and my "ASM" findings for their centered latitude/longitude locations ..
presents a very paradigm-shattering scenario, indeed). But .. I maintain,
as I always have .. that uncovering "The Truth" is more important than
anything involving the "preservation of untruth".
"EARTHFACE" in Middletown, New York, USA
Keep in mind, that these are very heavily-eroded remains ..
seen and recognized from aerial view. I stress the need
for aerial photos, of course. The length and width of this
structure is comparable to the length and width of THE FACE
@ Cydonia. It's "depth", of course, is now 'hidden' .. from
movements of soil and rock, from erosion, and possibly even
from an ice-sheet 'movement' during the end of the last "ice-age".
But it was clear, on Dr. Cornet's original webpages, that there
is a "recognizable" correspondence to THE FACE @ Cydonia ..
as seen from 'above'. Dr. Cornet actually described "EARTHFACE"
as a "mirror-image" of THE FACE @ Cydonia.
Grid LAT "EARTHFACE" ..
41 (deg) X 24 (min) X 21.33658537 (sec) North ..
= 20995.2 North.
Grid LONG "EARTHFACE" ..
105 (deg) X 31 (min) X 7.963133641 (sec) W.Giza ..
= 25920 W.Giza.
[ W.Greenwich 74 deg 23 min 7.163133641 sec ].
Grid POINT Value "EARTHFACE" ..
25920 / 20995.2 = 1.234567901
(Morton, 1998, Internet).
Yes ... one of the keys to my recognition of the center
of this site/structure's location, as_significant_to the
"ASM" (Archaeo-sky Matrix) .. was the "25920" ideal
Earth-precession cycle number .. (years) .. 'encoded by'
the W.Giza longitude.
I really, seriously, wish someone would go up in an airplane
and purposefully take some photos of that site.
I can't do it myself .. I'm too poor financially.
But surely someone knows someone who knows someone ...
you know how it goes.
Grid LAT "Tholus II" ..
41 (deg) X 29 (min) X 26.64423886 (sec) North ..
= 31680 North.
Grid LONG "Tholus II" ..
105 (deg) X 14 (min) X 23.94557823 (sec) W.Giza ..
= 35200 W.Giza.
[ W.Greenwich 74 deg 06 min 23.14557823 sec ].
Grid POINT Value .. "Tholus II" ..
35200 / 31680 = 1.111111111 ...
(Morton, 1998, Internet).
YES ... (Square Root of "EARTHFACE") = "Tholus II".
(Square Root of 1.234567901) = 1.111111111..
Notice the very gematrian "3168" decimal harmonic .. "31680".
According to Dr.Cornet's original webpages ..
the remains of "Tholus II" is about 1.6 regular (statute) miles
in diameter .. possibly referencing the Phi constant of 1.618033989 .. ??
Its radius, then, could be referencing "half-Phi" ..
or, the Cosine of "36" .. or, the Sine of "54", in terms
of statute miles.
Also .. again, according to Cornet's original webpages ..
the remains of "Tholus II" include a "large elliptical hill
at its pinnacle .. about 200 feet high at its apex".
This structure's remains are located just to the south
of the runway(s) at Stewart Air Force Base.
"Tholus II" is about 17 miles east, and about 6 miles north,
of "EARTHFACE".
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-- Michael Lawrence Morton
(c) 2001 by mailto:Milamo@aol.com Michael Lawrence Morton ~ Archeocryptographer.
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